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Mentor (Vogler): the entry
Definition
Vogler’s Mentor is the function in a story that gives the hero what the hero cannot yet supply alone: instruction, a tool or weapon, a push across the line, a piece of information that will matter later. It is usually carried by an older, wiser character, the teacher, the coach, the wizard, the crusty superior, but Vogler insists that it is a role rather than a type, so a child, an animal, a book, a memory or a rival can carry it for a scene and then put it down. The function also has limits built in. The Mentor can take the hero only so far, and the moment comes when the hero has to go on without them.
Vogler gave the role a second name, the Wise Old Man or Woman, and offered it as Campbell’s. That gloss is the source of most confusion about the figure. The Mentor is a working part of a screenplay; Jung’s wise old man, which has its own entry, is the form the unconscious takes when it brings meaning to a dreamer. The two share a picture, the bearded counsellor, and very little else.
History
The figure is older than the list it belongs to. In Vogler’s studio memo, “A Practical Guide to The Hero with a Thousand Faces”, written at Walt Disney in the mid-1980s and dated 1985 on the copy he later posted, the fourth stage reads that the hero is encouraged by the Wise Old Man or Woman, and gives it the heading “Meeting with the Mentor”. The memo’s examples are a “Merlin-like character”, the shark hunter played by Robert Shaw in Jaws, Lou Grant in The Mary Tyler Moore Show, and Obi Wan Kenobi handing Luke his father’s light sabre. It adds that in a modern story the figure may be any teacher, doctor, therapist, boss, sergeant, parent or grandfather. At this point the Mentor is a stage, not yet one of a set of archetypes; Vogler’s retrospective says the archetype material was added when the memo grew into a course and then a book.
The Writer’s Journey (1992) gave the Mentor the second place among the archetypes. In the second edition (1998), the earliest text checked for this entry, the section is headed “Mentor: Wise Old Man or Woman” (pp. 47–56) and opens with the line from Star Wars, “May the Force be with you!” Vogler calls the figure “usually a positive figure who aids or trains the hero”, and attributes the gloss to Campbell:
Campbell’s name for this force is the Wise Old Man or Wise Old Woman. — Christopher Vogler, The Writer’s Journey (2nd ed., 1998), “Mentor: Wise Old Man or Woman”, pp. 47–56
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The section ties the archetype to the image of the parent and the fairy godmother, and lists its functions: teaching, giving gifts (which Vogler calls the donor function, using the folklorist Vladimir Propp’s word), motivating, and planting information for later. In the Bond films, he notes, the gift-giving is handed to Q. It then sorts mentors into dark, fallen, continuing, multiple and comic kinds, and into the Mentor as shaman, and closes by repeating that the Mentor or donor is a function rather than a rigid type. Book Two returns to the figure at the stage of meeting the Mentor, where Vogler traces the word to the character of that name in the Odyssey, whose shape Athena borrows to guide Telemachus (p. 119), and discusses conflict between Mentor and hero (p. 121). The third (2007) and 25th-anniversary (2020) editions keep the figure under the same name.
The attribution to Campbell needs correcting. Campbell’s stage is “Supernatural Aid”, met as a protective figure, “often a little old crone or old man”, and his one use of “the Wise Old Man of the myths and fairy tales” is a comparison for the psychoanalyst in the Prologue (The Hero with a Thousand Faces, 1949, Prologue and part I, chapter I). The capitalised phrase is Jung’s. The stage name “Meeting with the Mentor” is Vogler’s own.
The debate
The relation to the classical figure is a borrowing of image without the concept. Jung’s wise old man is an autonomous figure of the psyche, double-edged, and capable of swallowing the ego that identifies with it; it is gendered male in his account, and the “wise old woman” was added by writers after him. Vogler’s Mentor is defined by what it does for a protagonist, and his “or Woman” is a screenwriter’s even-handedness, not a claim about the female psyche. His dark and fallen mentors come nearer to Jung’s warning about the figure’s shadow side than anything in Campbell, but Vogler frames them as craft choices, the dark mentor as a way of misleading the audience and the fallen one as a mentor still on a journey of their own, not as psychological risks.
David Bordwell (2006, p. 34) names the Mentor among the archetypes that Vogler “devised” to fill out his structure, derived from Campbell, Jung and his own imagination. That is a fair description of the figure’s make-up: a stage name of Vogler’s, a gloss from Jung by way of Campbell, a function from Propp, and examples from Hollywood. Harry Kirchner (2009) put the dependence on Jung more sharply, calling the book’s Jungian paradigm one reached through “pop anthropologist” Campbell. Vogler’s own preface to the second edition (1998) answers the wider charge that the scheme is formulaic and leads to stale repetition by saying it should be used as a form, not a formula. Helen Jacey (2010), writing a screenplay about two women against Vogler’s model, questioned how far its roles assume a male protagonist; the Mentor, glossed as an elder sage and illustrated almost entirely with men, is a case in point.
Empirical status
None. The Mentor is a craft category. Mentoring as a relationship has a large applied literature in education and organisations, but none of it tests Vogler’s claim that a mentor function recurs in stories everywhere, and none of it measures the figure as he defines it.
Appearances
Vogler’s own examples run from Merlin and Obi Wan to Quint, Lou Grant and Q; the summary of the archetypes once posted on his site added Yoda and “a great coach or teacher”. Stuart Voytilla’s Myth and the Movies (1999), with a foreword by Vogler, treats the Mentor as an essential archetype and follows Marcus Brody in Raiders of the Lost Ark, allowing that a hero may instead be guided by an inner mentor such as a code of honour. Connie Neal (2007), working from Vogler’s framework, reads Aslan as the primary mentor of Narnia and Obi-Wan, then Yoda, as Luke’s. Julian Woolford (2012) makes the Bishop of Digne Valjean’s Mentor in Les Misérables and has Henry Higgins move from Mentor to Shapeshifter in My Fair Lady. Craft writers now list mentors by Vogler’s subtypes: Leonardo Schwartz (2025) gives Hannibal Lecter as a dark mentor and Haymitch Abernathy of The Hunger Games as a fallen one. All of these are readings through Vogler’s scheme.
Sources
- Vogler, C. (1985). A practical guide to The Hero with a Thousand Faces (studio memo, Walt Disney). Text, Vogler’s account of its writing, and his summary of the archetypes as posted on thewritersjourney.com, archived 14 December 2017: http://web.archive.org/web/20171214034841/http://www.thewritersjourney.com/hero%27s_journey.htm
- Vogler, C. (1992). The Writer’s Journey: Mythic Structure for Storytellers and Screenwriters. Michael Wiese Productions. ISBN 978-0-941188-13-5.
- Vogler, C. (1998). The Writer’s Journey: Mythic Structure for Writers (2nd ed.). Michael Wiese Productions. ISBN 978-0-941188-70-8. Preface; Book One, “Mentor: Wise Old Man or Woman”, pp. 47–56; Book Two, “Meeting with the Mentor”, pp. 119–121. Read via the Internet Archive full-text search: https://archive.org/details/writersjourneymy00vogl
- Vogler, C. (2007). The Writer’s Journey: Mythic Structure for Writers (3rd ed.). Michael Wiese Productions. ISBN 978-1-932907-36-0.
- Vogler, C. (2020). The Writer’s Journey: Mythic Structure for Writers (25th-anniversary ed.). Michael Wiese Productions. ISBN 978-1-61593-315-0.
- Campbell, J. (1949). The Hero with a Thousand Faces. Princeton University Press edition, 1968. ISBN 978-0-691-01784-6. Prologue, section 1; part I, chapter I, section 3, “Supernatural Aid”.
- Propp, V. (1928). Morphology of the Folktale (L. Scott, Trans.; 2nd ed., L. A. Wagner, Ed.). University of Texas Press, 1968. ISBN 978-0-292-78376-8.
- Bordwell, D. (2006). The Way Hollywood Tells It: Story and Style in Modern Movies. University of California Press. ISBN 978-0-520-24622-5. P. 34.
- Kirchner, H. (2009). Review of S. Maras, Screenwriting: History, Theory and Practice. Screening the Past, 26. https://www.screeningthepast.com/issue-26-reviews/screenwriting-history-theory-and-practice/
- Jacey, H. (2010). The hero and heroine’s journey and the writing of Loy. Journal of Screenwriting, 1(2), 309–323. https://doi.org/10.1386/josc.1.2.309/1
- Voytilla, S. (1999). Myth and the Movies: Discovering the Mythic Structure of 50 Unforgettable Films. Michael Wiese Productions. ISBN 978-0-941188-66-1.
- Neal, C. (2007). Wizards, Wardrobes and Wookiees: Navigating Good and Evil in Harry Potter, Narnia and Star Wars. IVP Books. ISBN 978-0-8308-3366-5.
- Woolford, J. (2012). How Musicals Work: And How to Write Your Own. Nick Hern Books. ISBN 978-1-84842-175-2.
- Schwartz, L. (2025, 4 July). Leveraging character archetypes. Flawlessly Human. https://flawlesslyhuman.substack.com/p/leveraging-character-archetypes